Posted by The Professional on January 09, 1999 at 01:17
In Reply to: all that other stuff out of the way posted by The Professional on January 05, 1999 at 23:55
This is how I see it. There are a lot of people here who love seeing accidents and they count their blessings when they do.
But, these people seem to think they should leave it up to fate, or God or something to create accidents for them. They hope that the restroom door will be locked and their date will piss herself, or maybe they will be stuck in a traffic jamb or some other unseen event.
I think that when you hope or may I say pray for fate or God to do something than it is not much worse if any to do it yourself. I don't think it is any worse to cause a girl to wet herself than it is to hope fate will cause her to wet herself.
I also think that when someone does something you like. (Like wet herself) That you should be supportive.
I was not allowed to ask my secretary to pee herself, but I did aid the situation so that she felt that peeing herself was the best option. Then I still hired her. I would have still hired her if she had excused herself though. I would have loved to tell her directly that it was ok if she peed herself, but this could have caused more trouble I think.
A practical history:
At my company made its profits because of a few people who where creating intellectual property (Engineers if you must know) These employees needed chances to bounce ideas off of each other ( for this is part of the creative process) and they would often talk at the coffee machine. I had a secretary who would take freuquent bathroom breaks, and then would try to engage in conversation with the other employees, talking politics, telling jokes and whatever. Anyway I got some complaints from the other employees about this, for she was bothering them as well as not keeping to her duties. She didn't understand that they where really talking shop and not socializing for its own sake. And I had a hard time getting her to stop doing this. In fact I couldn't get her to stop, but luckily she left the company.
I decided I needed to lay the boundaries for the secretaries before they started working, in order to maintain a productive environment. So I did mention bathroom rules up-front, and socializing rules up-front. I did have a speech sort-of ready for good reasons. I also was a little more stirn with Shelley because I wanted to see her wet herself.
I never let anybody else know, which I think she wanted. Also I paid her well (Including a profit-sharing program). And she stayed very productive, and also we developed a good working relationship.
Some people have said that she should not have taken the job. I say why not, from her perspective she had a boss that was understanding when it came to mistakes, even forgiving when it came to wetting her pants, and so probably other issues also. She knew the company would appreciate her skills and forgive her shortcomings. (Although I appreciated her shortcomings also)
To those that think there may be a form of sexual harrassment on my part. Probably so, but thanks to those of you who think a lady like shelley would be stupid for wetting her pants, she will never mention it to anybody, it would end her carrier. (I don't really think this is a good thing though, I think people should be able to be honest, especially when it comes to natural acts).
I think she did right by the situation she was in. I could have been less effective in my speaking style in order to be nice, maybe taken less time in the interview, or started it earlier. But, she may still have wet herself, she may still not been able to get up the courage to ask to use the restroom. In fact she was a grown-up, she could have gotten up and used the bathroom if she wanted even after my spiele. Even right after I introduced myself to her. She could have said, "Would it be ok if I visted the washroom before the interview." And I would have had to say yes. But, she didn't trying to be impressive for the interview. (And we all try to be a little bit more for an interview don't we). She made a mistake, and in a way it became fate, in a way I became responsible for that fate. In the end we both were happy with the results.
And for those who think I'm so bad. Try peeing yourselfs in front of your boss or co-workers, and see how long your keep your job, or keep the respect of your co-workers. I think you may finde yourself in a more uncomfortable position than what Shelley did. (I don't think this is the wasy it should be, but it is the way it is)
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