Posted by DR on August 29, 2005 at 21:59 [67.83.76.91]
In Reply to: Re: That's a remarkably ignorant comment posted by Outsider on August 28, 2005 at 22:48
Outsider wrote:
"If they are scening publicly, maybe they should go to a BDSM board and not a DG one. I am not BDSM intolerant, just intolerant of public descriptions of humiliation and abuse on what is NOT a BDSM board!"
Ya know, that's the *EXACT* same nonsensical argument I read every time I call someone on their kink intolerance, "This isn't a BDSM board."
Before storming off in a infantile rage, another guy here, Brian, condemned my posts for my obvious BDSM leanings, "This isn't a BDSM board."
Poppycock. That argument is the last recourse of the intolerant. The essence of it is, "I don't mind you, but I just don't want you *here.*"
Its the same argument racists spout against blacks and jews and latinos. Its the same argument corporations used for years to keep women from reaching beyond the glass ceiling. And its the same argument we Americans say to each successive immigrant generation -- that despite the fact that our country was built upon immigrants.
This *is* as much a BDSM board as it is about any other kink related to diaper desires. Let's read what Bethan and Paul have said is the central focus of Daddys-Girl.net, "This site covers subjects of pants wetting, accidents, adult babies, bedwetting, role-playing, ageplay and wearing nappies in a sexual context."
Hmmmm... ageplay? Adult Babies? Wearing nappies in a sexual context? Those can *all* be related to BDSM. They don't have to be, but they can be. Therefore, discussions here *can* be about BDSM.
And Outsider wrote:
"Considering the power dynamics in a Daddy/Babygirl relationship, this could just as easily be a non-BDSM relationship where the Daddy is abusing the LG."
It could be, but it might not. Its *not* for you to say which, nor is it your right to interfere.
Outsider wrote:
"And where that is the case, it is completely right to condemn it."
You have *the right* to say anything you like, but what you said was neither right nor tactful. The standard by which all of us follow is very simple - so long as the participants are adults, are happy in what they do, and don't infringe upon your lifestyle or that of others, then its bad form to otherwise interfere or condemn their views.
And Outsider wrote:
"I would rather take the risk of being wrong than not condemn something that could lead to serious harm."
But it isn't your risk to take! Its theirs! They have every right to risk their well being as they please. The same is true of you. If you want to go skiing double black diamonds every day this winter, or you enjoy getting your head beat in every day in boxing training, or if you enjoy your BDSM by being hung up on meathooks -- that's your right to risk your ass to your heart's content.
The only time I have a right to inform you about those risks, is when your actions simulaneously create a risk for me -- in effect, infringing upon my lifestyle.
So no, Outsider, I don't buy your argument about risk. It wasn't your place to interfere because babygirl and Matt did nothing that would create a risk for you.
And finally, Outsider wrote:
"Oh get outta her, you pompous ass!"
LMAO! Gosh, I love the people on these diaper lists. I've actually seen cases where a person called me "pompous" for ripping his/her argument to shreds, but the week prior, that same person called me, "smart" for tearing apart someone else's argument.
So which is it? Am I smart or pompous? The funny thing though is that my arguments don't change. My attitude doesn't change. I argue for the same things all of the time: responsibility, tolerance, respect, equal opportunity, pride, education, for a real-time community, and a few other things. So why do some folks always have a beef with me? LOL! Here's what I think it is:
I think I'm a "smart" guy when I argue powerfully for a popular opinion, but I'm "pompous" when I argue powerfully for unpopular viewpoints. BDSM is often an unpopular topic among diaper message boards -- despite the fact that many diaper desires directly intersect with BDSM, as Anais wrote so eloquently. But as to why I'm considered sometimes smart, sometimes pompous, frankly, I think there's a lot of jealousy out there -- many who are intimidated by my intellect and my ability to effectively convert it into the written word. Perhaps an even greater reason is that some are intimidated by the truth found in my posts, but can only respond with hostility and accusations that I'm "pompous."
But those are tired excuses for others' inadequacies. They are about as tired as are your excuses for your gross intolerance, Outsider.