Posted by Brian on May 29, 2005 at 00:26 [64.12.116.131]
In Reply to: Re: Please any help posted by DR on May 19, 2005 at 01:35
DR,
You certainly are a piece of work, plainly impressed with your presumed expertise. It is amusing to see how you fall victim to such a common strategy used by amateur debaters - furiously pile on dubious "facts" and hope that no one notices that your conclusion remains unsupported.
Your well-regarded Dom - chaired a board of bondage folk - excuse my momentary hysterics - and respected by the women with whom he practiced his "craft" (simultaneous orgasms) - clearly an unbiased group.
Do you not understand the concept of peer-review as it applies to real research, from which valid conclusions are derived from valid premises, supported by abundant data - which is challenged repeatedly until either confirmed or disproved?
Without a doubt, you and your Dandy Dom mentor have lived the life and studied the scene. Clearly, you do possess a wealth of experience in a pursuit for which you are likely well-suited. That qualifies you as an expert in your own personal journey, nothing more. You haven't studied or researched anything with any semblance of scientific method. You likely burst onto the scene like any novice, years ago, led by insatiable desire and an erection, gained some face-time, formed opinions, voraciously gathered evidence to bolster your opinions, and then formed your "learned" conclusions. Later, you annointed yourself as a Dom guru, eager to spread your wisdom to devotees and inadequate Daddy Doms alike. Currently, you desperately post, to one and all, offering instruction and cut-N-paste quotations to better facilitate corrections.
You must be exhausted by such daunting responsibilities!
The issues that you raise are mostly subjective ones. What constitutes submissive? What constitutes Dominant? What defines AB, LG, Daddy?
NO ONE can answer any of these questions conclusively, except as "personal" interpretations. Still, you give it the good fight, to answer and define for others, incapable of doing so themselves, oblivious that many of them have their own extensive histories that have actually provided plenty of illumination.
You are correct - there are plenty of submissive women - hazard a guess - globally - 500,000 - 5 million, 50 million - do you see where this is leading - what were the numbers you provided as evidence of your record-setting, unassailable dominance - sorry Charlie, whatever they were -INSUFFICIENT SAMPLE SIZE.
You are incorrect - the ratio of men to women on DLG was an example. Since I am not a denizen of the web, surfing only occasionally and typically revisiting the same few sites over and again, my conclusions could not be based only on internet representation. Much of my own experience was gained before the web became the juggernaut that it is today, and it did not involve relying on clubs and meetings where like-minded souls mingled.
Instead it mainly involved more than 2 decades of prowling mixed clubs, discos, campus parties, the beach, in short, any place I might spot attractive prospects. I relied on observation of body language, eye-contact or gaze aversion, level of confidence in speech, degree of deference, etc., as well as physical attraction. I struck out plenty, was slapped or backhanded several times and had expensive liqueur tossed in my face.
Still, persistence paid handsome dividends, and I met many dozens of women who allowed me to explore my predilections. Some called themselves submissive; others did not. Some were eager and adventurous, others could be coaxed only into wetting their pants when they were a bit tipsy. Those who enjoyed themselves the most were typically the novices, but those with whom I connected with most intensely were often a bit older, knew what they wanted, but had not shared it with a man for a long time, if ever.
My sexual heyday - the halcyon years - comprised but part of my own journey - I have been sexually active for nearly 40 years. I have been sexually diverse, but for most of the past 30 years my identity as a Daddy has emerged as my driving sexual character. I know precisely who I am, and what I am seeking.
Contrary to your assertions, it has been my experience that the vast majority of the women I have met can say the same. Yes, the young ones, those emerging from the closet, or from doubt, or who have been hurt by someone they loved, can be timid or confused or simply inexperienced. Still, women who have been out and about and have gained some confidence can describe their desires just as well as any man.
That does not mean that submissive women do not wish to be led into unexplored territories, but this submission to a Dom/Daddy's guidance is still of their volition and in keeping with their adventurous nature.
You can have the last word on this point-counterpoint. I will not address this with you again. While I can appreciate your personal
expertise - you do know your subject and its lingo - you have no insight to offer me. Our worlds, interests, and pursuits are significantly divergent. By my assessment, I have never participated in S&M or B&D (as conventionally viewed), owned a slave, or joined a club devoted to such. My scene is private and one on one and defined by my own inimitable criteria. Most of the other men that you attempt to lecture are no more in need of your arrogant correctionals than I am.
P.S. The history lesson was amusing - considering that I resided in the Bay area when DPF was in its infancy - pun intended. Met Tommy in person. Still have one of their early newsletters - printed on cheap, coarse paper. Tell, me DR, do you remember when the "thesis" you cited was discredited? Probably not! It's been discarded news for ages.